[oXygen-user] foreign markup in ISO Schematron launched by NVDL

[Imsieke, Gerrit, le-tex]

Hi Matthieu,

The allow foreign configuration option is set here, too. But as Octavian 
and you already stated, the Schematron implementation that is called 
from NVDL is the one that is baked into jing and therefore the option 
doesn’t apply to it. Contrary to your assumption, the version of jing in 
recent oXygen products already supports ISO Schematron, which your 15.2 
product doesn’t. So upgrading to 19 will help you at least to a certain 
degree.

Regarding XSLT in Schematron: Rick Jelliffe once made a point that you 
can avoid custom XSLT functions in many cases by using Schematron let 
statements [1]. But admittedly, sch:let won’t give you type checking, 
for example.

Gerrit

[1] http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/09/do-you-need-to-make-your-own-x.html

On 10.04.2017 16:13, Matthieu RICAUD-DUSSARGET wrote:
> Hi Gerrit,
> 
> Thank you for reporting this for me :)
> 
> In my version of oXygen (15.2) there's a way to set allowForeign for schematron :
> 
>        Preferences > XML > XML Parser > schematron :  "checkbox to allowForeign"
> 
> I gues it's the same in the latest version of oXygen. (I will now it soon as my company will update each of our licences to the version 19 :))
> 
> This works fine when using a schematron validation scenario from oXygen (which implement skeleton xslt as far as I read). But when the (iso-)schematron is called from within an NVDL script, oXygen is using jing which doesn't support "NVDL with iso-schematron".
> 
> The latest jing version from Georges (https://github.com/georgebina/jing-trang) supports iso-schematron as standalone validation, but I guess not from NVDL.
> 
> Axel Court has made a patch for this (https://github.com/AxelCourt/jing-trang ):
> - making the class com.thaiopensource.relaxng.util.Driver public
> - using skeleton (http://www.schematron.com/implementation.html) for nvdl validation
> But there are still things to set before making a pull request for this :
> - a bug with xsl:import within skeleton, probably a catalog problem : iso_dsdl_include.xsl has not been included
> - xsl parameter allow-foreign has been forced to true()
> - jing now depends on saxon9 which was saxon6.5 before
> 
> Hope my interpretation of oXygen not supporting iso-schematron from NVDL is correct. If the team has any plan to make it work, please let us know !
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Matthieu
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : oXygen-user [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at oxygenxml.com] De la part de Imsieke, Gerrit, le-tex
> Envoyé : lundi 10 avril 2017 12:02
> À : oxygen-user at oxygenxml.com
> Cc : Matthieu Ricaud-Dussarget
> Objet : [oXygen-user] foreign markup in ISO Schematron launched by NVDL
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m calling an ISO Schematron from an NVDL in oXygen 19 which works fine so far. Now we were wondering whether we may also use foreign markup, in particular XSLT. But I don’t see an obvious way how to pass allow-foreign=true to the Schematron validator (not sure whether it is relying on the default XSLT2 ISO Schematron implementation anyway). This is not important for our current use case. Just asking out of interest and because Matthieu raised the question.
> 
> Gerrit
> 
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